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<H4 align="center">By James T. Dennis,
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>Chicken and Egg (Catch-22) for Linux Download/Install</H3>
<p><strong>From Richard Santora on 14 Sep 1998 </strong></p>
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Question. Can you download Linux applications onto a floppy disk
formatted under dos and then install to Linux?
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>You can put tar, rpm or other types of packages on a
DOS floppy (MS-DOS filesystem) and use that to
transport any (sufficiently small) application.
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You'd just mount the floppy (with a command like:
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mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt/a
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... and access the files under the <tt>/mnt/a</tt> (or whatever
mount point you chose). You could then extract the
members of a .tar.gz file with a command like:
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cd /usr/local/from/floppy &&
<br>tar xzf /mnt/a/mynew.tgz
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... or you could use your favorite packaging commands
to work with rpm and deb files.
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>Background. I am an inexperienced Linux
<A HREF="http://www.redhat.com/">Red Hat</A> 5.0 home user. I
selected the "everything" software installation choice from the
installation CD onto my Dell XPS 60 with 40 Mb of Ram. I am using
System Commander to use this pc to run dos based operating systems
as well as Linux. I have internet access through Windows 3.1 and
Windows 95. I am having difficulty getting a connection under Linux
to my ISP, the Microsoft Network. (I have been able to get the
modem to dial out using the Modem Tool and the Network Configurator
in the X window Control Panel.) I would like to download one of the
freeware PPP programs and also Netscape Navigator. When I download
the PPP program using Windows 95, the file format extension will
remain ".tar" or ".rpm" however; the Linux OS will not mount the
floppy. I can get to the directory using "mdir" but I can not seem
to get the program to install. Is there a work around?
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>If you can't get the floppy (or your hard drive) to
mount under Linux than you're probably missing some
module or kernel driver (your kernel might not have the
MS-DOS/FAT -- or VFAT, etc support enabled).
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If you can see it under Linux with '<tt>mdir</tt>' (from the 'm-tools'
package) than you can also copy it to one of your
Linux native directories (such as /tmp) using the '<tt>mcopy</tt>'
command.
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Read the '<tt>mtools</tt>' man pages for details.
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Published in <I>Linux Gazette</I> Issue 33 October 1998</H5>
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