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<p><strong>From Eric Freden  on Fri, 04 Dec 1998  
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<P><STRONG><IMG SRC="../../gx/dennis/qbub.gif" ALT="(?)"
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Here is a legitimate use for remote login as root:
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My kid plays some svga game on my console and
locks the keyboard (for instance). I want to telnet
in and   <TT>/sbin/shutdown -r now</TT>
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Actually you can often recover from this without
a shutdown.  But its a trick.  Eventually we
might have something like KGI/GGI to provide
more robust SVGAlib support.
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(The trick is to start X from your telnet/terminal
session.  This usually does a complete video
system reset as a side effect.  WARNING!:
This might hang the system --- so close any
running text mode apps, save any accessible
documents and issue a few calls to '<tt>sync</tt>' before
trying it).
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For RedHat 5.0 (and all other RedHat versions I've
used) only root can do this. Changing to su
and executing shutdown won't reboot! Perhaps
you could find a workaraound for this scenario?
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Eric Freden
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If that's your experience then something is
wrong with your '<tt>su</tt>' command!
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Did you issue '<tt>su -</tt>' (the dash is pretty important
--- as it forces the '<tt>su</tt>' command to run your
<tt>.login</tt>/<tt>.profile</tt> scripts and initialize root
environment (and shell variables, etc).
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Another approach is to tweak the permissions
on '<tt>shutdown</tt>'  Here's the recommended method:
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Create a group such as "shutdown"
or use the "wheel" group.
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Add your regular user account (and mom's?) to that group.
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Issue a command like:
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chown root.$GROUP  $(which shutdown)
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... to set the file group association
appropriately.  You could also use
'<tt>chown</tt>' then '<tt>chgrp</tt>' seperately, of course.
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Make it SUID with a command like:
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chgrp 4550 $(which shutdown)
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N.B.  I set the execute bit for owner and group
but <EM>not</EM> for "other/world"
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This allows people in the associated group to issue
the '<tt>shutdown</tt>' command.  That command will run with
root' privileges.  The 0 permissions for "other" prevent
"others" from executing this command at all.  (Other
users have no valid reason to issue a shutdown command).
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Setting binaries to be SUID always has implications for
system security.  However, it is one of the primary forms
of authority delegation available in Unix/Linux.
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In this case we minimize the risk by limiting the number
of accounts that can access the command.
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This technique is generally useful and should be considered
for all Unix/Linux SUID commands.
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