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>When "Quit Confirm" Dialogs are NOT Enough...</H3>
<p><strong>From Bryan Henderson on Tue, 21 Mar 2000
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In the moral to your sad tale of discarding the article you just
wrote, you advise emacs users to use autosave. Actually, emacs users
have better protection available, by default. The normal quit command
always prompts you if you have changes you haven't saved. Even the
command for discarding changes prompts you. There may be a command to
discard changes and exit without prompting, but I doubt anyone would
have it installed on a key.
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Autosave is nice for protection against system failures. But I don't
like it precisely because it takes away my ability to change my mind
and throw away my edits, and in the event of a system failure, it can
be hard to pick up from where the last autosave randomly happened. I
prefer just to hit 'save' every time I reach a reasonable commit
point. It's an easy habit to forge.
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Now if I could just find a way to keep from rm'ing a file moments
after I spent an hour creating it... I've done that a few times.
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Ahhh... but you miss my whole point. I did NOT "quit" out of
xemacs. I (accidentally) issued a '<tt>screen</tt>' command to send a
SIGQUIT (die now with a core dump!) signal to all of its
processes.
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xemacs never had a chance to confirm (or refute) my wishes in the
matter.
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As for having the choice to revert to earlier versions, I've used
the emacs "version-control" option for years. It creates backup
files of the form foo.~X~ (where X is a number). I occasionally
run a skulker to find old *.~*~ files, look them over and
pass them onto to an "<tt>xargs rm</tt>" command. You can set that using
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<blockquote><pre>(setq version-control 't)
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In your <tt>init.elc</tt> (or <tt>.emacs</tt>) file. (I use a common emacs
method of having a simple <tt>.emacs</tt> file like:
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<blockquote><pre>(load (expand-file-name "~/.elisp/init.elc"))
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and I maintain a <tt>~/.elisp/init.el</tt> file, which I byte-compile
into a <tt>.elc</tt> when I change it. That's an old trick.
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Anyway, I've now added:
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<blockquote><pre>(setq auto-save-default 't)
(setq auto-save-timeout 600)
(setq auto-save-interval 500)
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... which sets the auto-save flag to on, saves if I leave my
keyboard for ten minutes (actually depends on buffer size, but I
tend not to spend too much time editing 200K and larger buffers)
and sets the editor to save every 500 keystrokes (which is about
every quarter page.
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That should keep me out of too much trouble.
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<p><strong>Answered by Bryan Henderson on Tue, 21 Mar 2000
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Ahhh... but you miss my whole point. I did NOT "quit" out of
xemacs. I (accidentally) issued a '<tt>screen</tt>' command
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Yeah, I did. I didn't (and still don't) know what '<tt>screen</tt>' is.
Thanks for the info.
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<em><p>[ <tt>screen</tt> is an application designed to allow you to have
multiple screens available when you're logged into one console.
When I use an ssh session, it allows me to maintain much the same
habits as I normally do on virtual consoles, by switching amid the
several possible screens.
</p><p>Jim's favorite use for it is the keyboard driven cut and paste buffer.
It also can be used to maintain state while you leave one terminal
(say, your desktop) and return from another one (say, across an ssh
link from your other office).
</p><p>-- Heather ] </p></em>
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And I am also grateful for the tip on running a compiled init file. I've
been struggling recently with whether to use an old Emacs or a new one,
considering that the new one is painfully slow, especially to start up.
compiling the init file could make a noticeable difference.
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