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<H1><font color="maroon">The Back Page</font></H1>

<ul>
<li><a HREF="#wacko">Wacko Topic of the Month</a>
<li><a HREF="#nottag">Not The Answer Gang</a>
<li><a HREF="#spam">World of Spam</a>
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<FONT COLOR="purple">
[Ben] O'course, "linux" _could_ just be another type of rhubard... &lt;sic&lt;
*that* would explain some things. :)
</FONT>




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<P>
<H3 ALIGN="center">Homework assignment: reading directions</H3>

<p align="right"><FONT COLOR="#000000"><strong>Answered By Iron
</strong></FONT></p>

<STRONG>
question 1. using the man page on a linux work station identify four flags that 
can be supplied to the shutdown command . giving the description of each flag.

<P> question 2. using the man page on linux work station find out what three 
options can be used with the Is command .include a brief descrption of how the 
output will be formatted.
</STRONG></P>

<P>
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/bbub.gif" ALT="(!)"
	HEIGHT="28" WIDTH="50" BORDER="0"
	> [Iron]

It says right in the question what to do.  Which part of "using the man page" do
you not understand?

<P> But here's a hint: there is no 'Is' command.  Do you mean 'ls'?  But it has a lot more than
three options.

<HR NOSHADE WIDTH="40%" ALIGN="center"> <!-- ************************************** -->

<H3 ALIGN="center">Homework assignment: American colonists</H3>

<p align="right"><FONT COLOR="#000000"><strong>Answered By Frank Rodolf, Heather
Stern, Iron and Huibert Alblas
</strong></FONT></p>

<STRONG>
1 question

<P> what methods did colonists use to protest actions by parliament between 1765 
and 1775
</STRONG></P>

<P>
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/bbub.gif" ALT="(!)"
	HEIGHT="28" WIDTH="50" BORDER="0"
	> [Frank]

Hmm... Lets see if a European can answer that...

<P> My first guess was they dropped penguins in the parliamentary buildings. I
don't think that is correct though.

<P> I guess you did not realize you were sending this question to a list that is
about helping people with problems with Linux, a computer operating system,
not a homework help line. :)

<P> You might go to a search engine - www.google.com might be a good choice, and
search for (for instance):

               rebellion 1765-1775


<P>
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/bbub.gif" ALT="(!)"
	HEIGHT="28" WIDTH="50" BORDER="0"
	> [Heather]

We (The Answer Gang) 
are not a study group. Most especially not a USA 
History 101 study group.

<P> The only way you could have found us is because we: 
<OL>
<LI> regularly advise people asking us questions that are
   poorly phrased to "do their homework first".
<LI> advise people who send us pieces of their computing
   exams in college that they can ask us these things,
   but it's no substitute for doing their homework. We
   then welcome them to read the rest of the Gazette.
</OL>

<P> Ask instead:

<H4>Q.</H4>
What methods did high school and college students use 
to study the late 1700s before the internet promised
them a fast answer to everything?

<H4>A.</H4> 
Books.  There is probably a library near you.  Failing 
that the textbook that was suggested by your professor
may have the answer in it, or a bibliography leading 
to more useful books.  Reading such books and thereby
gaining an understanding of the question and its 
answers... there may be many... is called "research"
and you can probably do an internet search on any 
buzzwords you find that way.

<P> Good luck in your quest.  And your quizzes.


<P>
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/bbub.gif" ALT="(!)"
	HEIGHT="28" WIDTH="50" BORDER="0"
	> [Iron]

The Boston tea party.

<P> That inspired the Silicon Valley tea party some 200 years later.
<A HREF="http://www.svlug.org/events/tea-party-199811.shtml">
http://www.svlug.org/events/tea-party-199811.shtml</A>


<P>
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/bbub.gif" ALT="(!)"
	HEIGHT="28" WIDTH="50" BORDER="0"
	> [Halb]

Nope, actualy the colonist were sick and tired from the English trying
to impose somekind off copyrightlisencefees and taxes on
software,mp3,linux,_stamps_,and everything but the kitchensink.

<P> The colonist reacted in not using M$-windows anymore and burning some
MP3 cd's.

<P> Get the real story on:
<A HREF="http://www.britannica.com/eb/article?euq187&tocid=0">
http://www.britannica.com/eb/article?euq187&tocid=0</A>

<P> This Brittanica thing is quite good, I wish it had been there back then
when I was supposed to do my history homework.....


<P>
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/bbub.gif" ALT="(!)"
	HEIGHT="28" WIDTH="50" BORDER="0"
	> [Iron]
Never mind the irony of looking up the American Revolution in a British
encyclopedia!





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<H3 ALIGN="center">Homework assignment: modernizing an office</H3>

<p align="right"><FONT COLOR="#000000"><strong>Answered By Heather Stern
</strong></FONT></p>

<STRONG>
respected sir;(to whom it may concern)
i have visited ur webpage
</STRONG></P>

<P>
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/bbub.gif" ALT="(!)"
	HEIGHT="28" WIDTH="50" BORDER="0"
	> [Heather]
You may have visited them, but you haven't read them... or you'd know we
don't answer for the operating systems you have asked about.  Or else you
don't mind taking a few flames, because you hope there will be a useful
tidbit anyway.  If that's so, please read onward.

<P>
<STRONG>
ir i am student of IT and want ur help in solving my college assignment, as 
it is tecnically advanced ur i think u can give me help.
points of the asssignments are;
</STRONG>

<P>
With a certain amount of rolling our eyes towards the heavens... who told
you to mail us?

If you just found us in some search engine, that would be because the 
buzzword "homework" is part of the commonly used phrases here:

<UL>
<LI> SO you have some homework to do.
<LI> Trying to get us to do your homework, eh?
</UL>

When we answer these sorts of questions it is nearly always with some 
better places to look.  The 
<A HREF="http://www.linuxdoc.org/">Linux Documentation Project</A>, for
instance. 

<P> Shall we send a carbon copy of this message to your professor, too?

<P> I think you can stand to read the back issues of the Linux Gazette in some
detail.  This is a very old practice in schools called "research".  I've
heard that some people get better answers from technical forums when they
try to do some of it before just dumping their take-home exam in someone
else's lap.

<P>
<STRONG>
The company is tradionalist in information privacy, security, and the 
applications of new technologies: so

<P> 1)if i am doing job in World computer inc.and i have to upgrade the system 
into modern arena
</STRONG>

<P> Can't "up" grade until you know what you want it to do.  If it is already
doing its job well, "up" grading it is a waste of your time, and annoys 
the users.

<P>
<STRONG>
Q1)from security point of view ...
</STRONG>

<P> To quote another member of The Answer Gang:
<blockquote>
	"Security is the enforcement of policy.  First you must set 
	 policy, then you can try to enforce it."
</blockquote>

<P> Not all security policies are about computers - for those, there is only
a slight amount software can do. 

<P>
<STRONG>
... which software is better Sun solaris or Windows NT.and which of them
can better ...
</STRONG>

<P> can [verb] better?
We don't care which of those two is better - FOR WHAT? - this is the 
<EM>LINUX</EM> Gazette.

<P>
<STRONG>
...in the environment of data processsing deapartmant.
</STRONG>

<P> I hope you would better know the context of a data processing department
than I would, because those aren't the kind of sites I work with most.  I
have no idea if COBOL exists for either one.

<P> But you might try Celeste Stokely's home page, it has much more general
UNIX related information.  And some humor.

<P>
<STRONG>
so plz give me strengths and of the software u recommend----?
</STRONG>

<P> Yes, if you're used to Sun versions of UNIX, try Slackware as your Linux
distribution.  It's very "BSDish" which means some of its commands may be
more comfortable to use.  KDE or Openlook window managers might resemble
the default X interfaces found on Suns.  And you'll need Samba to talk to 
those NT domains... 

<P> Oh what the heck, here's a bonus tip: Samba works on Solaris too, so you
can have that Solaris box talk to NT boxen.  You could use *both*...

<P>
<STRONG>
sir i would be very gr8ful to u if u give me some suggestions as soon 
possible because i have to submit this assignment after 2 days.
</STRONG>

<P> The Answer Gang does not promise anybody any answer at all, timely or
otherwise.  If we do, we can publish them on the Linux Gazette website.  
THE ANSWERS WILL BE ABOUT LINUX.  Tell your friends we are not a college 
study group.



<HR NOSHADE WIDTH="40%" ALIGN="center"> <!-- ************************************** -->

<H3 ALIGN="center">Loans</H3>

<p align="right"><FONT COLOR="#000000"><strong>Answered By Ben Okopnik
</strong></FONT></p>

<STRONG>
Dear Sir:
Please send infor on how to apply for a student loan.
</STRONG></P>

<P>
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/bbub.gif" ALT="(!)"
	HEIGHT="28" WIDTH="50" BORDER="0"
	> [Ben]

<OL>
<LI> Get the paperwork.
<LI> Using a #2 pencil, fill it out.
<LI> Submit it to the proper agency.
</OL>

<P> Hint: If you don't learn to spell the word "information" properly, you  
won't be able to apply for a number of the available courses, 
especially in the field of computing. <EM>Verbum sapienti</EM>, eh?




<HR NOSHADE WIDTH="40%" ALIGN="center"> <!-- ************************************** -->

<H3 ALIGN="center">Pagers</H3>

<p align="right"><FONT COLOR="#000000"><strong>Answered By Heather Stern
</strong></FONT></p>

<STRONG>
I need some basic information on how pagers work. I would appreciate it if you 
could help me out by showing me some links on the related subject, or by mailing 
me any diagram or .pdf file containig any information about it. Thanks a lot.
</STRONG></P>

<P>
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/bbub.gif" ALT="(!)"
	HEIGHT="28" WIDTH="50" BORDER="0"
	> [Heather]

They work just like cellphones, except that they don't eat as much, so 
when they are on their lunch break, they get to hang out by the coffee
for a bit longer.  They like that because they can catch the local buzz.

<P> Honestly, the reason they don't eat as much is usually because the cell
phones regularly "ping" their cell site to make sure they don't have
to negotiate a handoff in order to keep listening, while pagers are
usally passive and they get whatever signal they get.  So they only 
use a tiny amount of juice to remember messages they already recieved,
and to ding or buzz or whatever it is they do.  

<P> Two way pagers may act more like cellphones, and some cellphones are
definitely pagers too, so beyond this, you need to hit the web searching
on the model number.  Some even let you web browse but even there, you 
are still not close to Linux.  See the search engines, using the keyword
"WAP" for more about that stuff.

<P> Try "how pagers work" in google?



<HR NOSHADE WIDTH="40%" ALIGN="center"> <!-- ************************************** -->

<H3 ALIGN="center">The TAG skirmish</H3>

<p align="right"><FONT COLOR="#000000"><strong>Answered By Ben Okopnik, Heather
Stern, Jim Dennis and Iron
</strong></FONT></p>

Sudhakar An asked:
<STRONG>
Gazette's July issue was pretty interesting. Jim I
assume you literally had a quarrel with Ben heh?
</STRONG></P>

<P>
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/bbub.gif" ALT="(!)"
	HEIGHT="28" WIDTH="50" BORDER="0"
	> [Ben]
Yeah... he got in a fairly good lick with that bullwhip, but I'm pretty
fast with the nunchucks. We'll both be out of the hospital in no time at
all; the No-Holds Barred Smackdown rematch is already sold out, we're
both making a fortune on the t-shirts and the pre-printed mousepads, and
the crowds are screaming for blood.

<P> I've *heard* that there are people that can disagree and remain 
friends... but I'm sure that it's a myth; "Death before Dishonor", I 
always say.

<P> &lt;laugh&gt; I'm _very_ interested in how you see The Answer Gang, 
Sudhakar. You must have quite a colorful imagination.

<P>
<STRONG>
ps: Cool it Jim
</STRONG>

<P> Hey, Jim *is* cool. Just because we try to kill each other in the ring 
doesn't mean we can't be the best of friends at other times, right?

<P>
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/bbub.gif" ALT="(!)"
	HEIGHT="28" WIDTH="50" BORDER="0"
	> [Heather] 
Hey, I thought we agreed, no mousepads unless you send a few to his Mom...

<P>
<STRONG>
But my problem started when I enabled services like
ftp,telnet, ssh , .... under xinetd.
</STRONG>

<P>
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/bbub.gif" ALT="(!)"
	HEIGHT="28" WIDTH="50" BORDER="0"
	> [Jim]  
Yes... I can promise you that you will. We've seen lots of complaints 
about it here.

<P>
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/bbub.gif" ALT="(!)"
	HEIGHT="28" WIDTH="50" BORDER="0"
	> [Heather]
And it's Ben in the ring, the Answer Guy himself Jim Dennis takes off
his wizard cap to much cheering, and ... xinetd gets in the first swing.
Zowie!

<P>
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/bbub.gif" ALT="(!)"
	HEIGHT="28" WIDTH="50" BORDER="0"
	> [Ben]
(Psst - hey, Jim! I bet my t-shirt sales are higher than yours: I'm
giving away a Genuine Ben Okopnik autograph <EM>and</EM> a set of Ginsu knives
with each one!)


<P>
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/bbub.gif" ALT="(!)"
	HEIGHT="28" WIDTH="50" BORDER="0"
	> [Heather]
Yeah?  I bet I can actually SELL Ginsu knives to these people!  It's got
g_n_u in it after all... half the donations to LinuxFund!  So, you wanna
bet on just the tshirts, or the whole kaboodle?

<P> btw, most geeks have plenty of tshirts.  Plus hats and the occasional change
purse.  Maybe we should sell something they *don't* usually get, like the 
rest of the wardrobe :)
<ul>
<li> belts
<li> kilts (with fashionable antispam safety pin.)
<li> togas
<li> tennis shoes (they should *definitely* give these out at Comdex)
</ul>


<P>
<STRONG>
Rgds Jim , I can understand that you guys dont mean to
be killing each other. Just seemed so real this
quarrel.
</STRONG>

<P>
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/bbub.gif" ALT="(!)"
	HEIGHT="28" WIDTH="50" BORDER="0"
	> [Iron]
What was the original quarrel people keep on talking about?  Not the
"Dash it All! Coping with ---Unruly--- Filenames" thread?  That's not
quarreling, that's just having fun.


<P>
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/bbub.gif" ALT="(!)"
	HEIGHT="28" WIDTH="50" BORDER="0"
	> [Ben]
I have no idea - I looked through the last ish and could find no signs 
of quarrels, arrows, or darts flung in anger or even irritation - but 
I'm sure having a ball with it. :)




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<H3 ALIGN="center">The finger and the Internet oracle</H3>

<p align="right"><FONT COLOR="#000000"><strong>Answered By Iron, Nick Moffitt, Heather Stern and Ben Okopnik
</strong></FONT></p>

Anonymous Coward asked:
<STRONG>
I have a question about the "finger" option on telnet.  I know that you can
find out when someone has logged in by entering "finger name" But I was
wondering if it possible to find out who has tried to finger your e-mail
account??
</STRONG></P>


<P>
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/bbub.gif" ALT="(!)"
	HEIGHT="28" WIDTH="50" BORDER="0"
	> [Iron]
The short answer: 

<P> If you are the sysadmin, you can run "fingerd" with the "-l" option to
log incoming requests; see "man fingerd".  Otherwise, if you have Unix
progamming experience, it *may* be possible to write a script that logs
information about the requests you get.  If you're merely concerned
about security, the correct answer is to turn off the "fingerd" daemon
or read the "finger" and "fingerd" manpages to learn how to limit what
information your computer is revealing about you and about itself.
However, you have some misconceptions about the nature of "finger" which
we should also address.

<P> The long answer:

<P> "finger" and "telnet" are two distinct Internet services.  "http" (WWW)
and "smtp" (sending e-mail) are two other Internet services.  Each
service is completely independent of the others.  

<P> Depending on the command-line options given and the cooperation of the
remote site, "finger user@host" may tell you: 

<P> (1) BASIC USER INFORMATION: the user's login name, real name,
terminal name and write status, idle time, login time, office location and
office phone number. 

<P> (2) EXTENDED USER INFORMATION: home directory, home phone number, login
shell, mail status (whether they have any mail or any unread mail), and the
contents of their "~/.plan" and "~/.project" and "~/.forward" files.

<P> (3) SERVER INFORMATION: a  ``Welcome to ...'' banner which also shows some
informations (e.g. uptime, operating system name and release)--similar to what
the "uname -a" and "uptime" commands reveal on the remote system.

<P> Normally, ".plan", ".project" and ".forward" are regular text files.
".plan" is normally a note about your general work, ".project" is a note
about the status of your current project(s), and ".forward" shows
whether your incoming mail is being forwarded somewhere else or whether
you're using a mail filter (it also shows where it's being forwarded to
and what your mail filter program is, scary).

<P> I've heard it's possible to make one of these files a named pipe
connected to a script.  I'm not exactly sure how it's done.  (Other TAG
members, please help.)  You use  "mkfifo" or "mknod -p" to create the
special file, then somehow have a script running whose standard output
is redirected to the file.  Supposedly, whenever "finger" tries to read
the file, it will read your script's output.  But I don't know how your
script would avoid a "broken pipe" error if it writes when there's
nobody to read it, how it would know when there's a reader, or how the
reader would pass identifying information to the script.  Each Internet
connection reveal's the requestor's IP, and if the remote machine is
running the "identd" daemon, one can find out the username.  But how
your "finger" script would access that information, I don't know, since
it's not running as a subprocess of "finger", so there's no way for
"finger" to pass it the information in environment variables or
command-line arguments.  

<P> However, "finger" is much less useful nowadays than it was ten years
ago.  Part of this is due to security paranoia and part to the fact
that we use servers differently nowadays.

<P> (1) Re security, many sysadmins have rightly concluded that "finger" is a
big security risk and have disabled "fingerd" on their servers, or enable it
only for intranet requests (which are supposedly more trustworthy).  Not only
is the host information useful to crackerz and script kiddiez, but users may
not realize how much information their revealing.

<P> (2) Re how we use servers, in 1991 at my university, we had one Unix
computer (Sequent/Dynix) that any student could get an account on.
Users were logged in directly from hardwired text terminals, dialup or
telnet.  You could use "finger" to see whether your friends were logged
in.  Since you knew where your friends normally logged in from, you had
a fair idea where they were at the moment and could meet them to hack
side-by-side with them or to read (Usenet) news or to play games
together.  (Actually, you didn't even need to use "finger".  "tcsh" and
"zsh" would automatically tell you when certain "watched" users logged
in and out.) You could even use "w" to find out which interactive
program they were currently running.  But soon demand went above 350
simultaneous users, especially when the university decided to promote
universal e-mail use among its 35,000 students and 15,000 staff.  The
server was replaced by a cluster of servers, and every user logging in
to the virtual host was automatically placed on one of the servers at
random.  Since "finger" and "w" information--as well as the tcsh/zsh
"watch" service--are specific to a certain server, it was a pain to
check all the servers to see if your friends were on any of them.  About
this time, people started using X-windows, and each "xterm" window would
show up in "finger" as a separate logged-in user.  Also, finger access
became disabled outside the intranet.  "finger" became a lot less
convenient, so it fell into disuse.

<P> (3) "finger" only monitors login sessions.  This includes the "login"
program, "telnet", "xterm", "ssh" (and its insecure cousins "rsh" and
"rlogin").  It does not include web browsing, POP mail reading, irc or
interactive chat, or instant messaging.  These servers *could* write
login entries, but they don't.  Most users coming from the 
web-browser-IS-my-shell background never log in, wouldn't know what to
do at the shell prompt if they did log in, don't think they're missing
anything, and their ISPs probably don't even have shell access anyway.
That was the last nail in the coffin for "finger".

<P> So in short, "finger" still works, but its usefulness is debatable.
Linus used to use his ".plan" file to inform people of the current
version of Linux and where to download it.  SSC used to use it to
propagte its public PGP key.  There are a thousand other kinds of 
useful information it could be used for.  However, now that everybody
and his dog has a home page, this ".plan" information can just as easily
be put on the home page, and it's just as easy (or easier for some
people) to access it via the web than via "finger".


<P> <EM>Nick Moffitt asks another question, and somehow these two threads
tie together.  Then one of the Gang (whose name fell off this message)
suggested:</EM>

<P>
In this case it'd be wickedly apropos to twist finger to doing
what you want... so you can give some poor telnet-using sap "the
finger" as it were.


<P>
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/bbub.gif" ALT="(!)"
	HEIGHT="28" WIDTH="50" BORDER="0"
	> [Iron]
And Nick would enjoy doing it, too.


<P>
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/bbub.gif" ALT="(!)"
	HEIGHT="28" WIDTH="50" BORDER="0"
	> [Nick]
Hahaha!  Sheesh, I write a single TAG mail, and up crops
Heather Stern, Mike Orr, and Don Marti.  You folks should become the
next innurnet oracle!

<P>
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/bbub.gif" ALT="(!)"
	HEIGHT="28" WIDTH="50" BORDER="0"
	> [Ben]
&lt;aghast&gt; You mean we're NOT? &lt;/aghast&gt;	
	
<P>
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/bbub.gif" ALT="(!)"
	HEIGHT="28" WIDTH="50" BORDER="0"
	> [Heather]
My caffeine must be a quart low... since I was pretty sure that we must be -
otherwise we wouldn't get stupid highschooler homework questions, who 
invented the cardboard box, and driving instructions for spaceships who were
dumb enough to install NT service packs just because their code-morphing
technology was able to do that.  

<P> We could probably come up with some cute database-generated silly answer
to give instead of "These Aren't The Droids You're Looking For" but I think
we're okay for now.

<P> Except we might use postgresql instead of oracle... 
&lt;grin duck and run!&gt;

<P>
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/bbub.gif" ALT="(!)"
	HEIGHT="28" WIDTH="50" BORDER="0"
	> [Ben]
&lt;glaring&gt; <EM>I</EM> managed to restrain myself.

&lt;grin&gt;

<P>
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/bbub.gif" ALT="(!)"
	HEIGHT="28" WIDTH="50" BORDER="0"
	> [Iron]
Just making Linux a little bit more fun.	


<P>
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/bbub.gif" ALT="(!)"
	HEIGHT="28" WIDTH="50" BORDER="0"
	> [Nick]
<EM>[In his signature:]</EM>


	
<PRE>
-- 
You are not entitled to your opinions.
</PRE>

<P>
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/bbub.gif" ALT="(!)"
	HEIGHT="28" WIDTH="50" BORDER="0"
	> [Iron]
Typical Moffittism.

<P>
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/bbub.gif" ALT="(!)"
	HEIGHT="28" WIDTH="50" BORDER="0"
	> [Nick]
<PRE>
	01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! 
        ^	    (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.)
</PRE>



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<H3 ALIGN="center">Backward compatibility of PC architecture</H3>

<p align="right"><FONT COLOR="#000000"><strong>Answered By Ben Okopnik</strong></FONT></p>

Iron asked:
<STRONG>
Yes, but *why* is this assbackwards architecture by far the most popular
computer on the market?  BECAUSE of the backwards compatibility.
</STRONG></P>


<P>
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/bbub.gif" ALT="(!)"
	HEIGHT="28" WIDTH="50" BORDER="0"
	> [Ben]

Yes, but "backward compatibility" does not have to mean "keeping every 
single piece of old garbage". Once we reached the 
processing power of 486DX100s, emulating DOS for complete backward 
compatibility was a real option - and redesigning the architecture from 
the ground up while still maintaining backward compatibility was a 
reasonable goal. That was, erm, a few years ago.




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<H3 ALIGN="center">Squid</H3>

<p align="right"><FONT COLOR="#000000"><strong>Answered By Faber Fedor and Iron</strong></FONT></p>

Asdi Dera wrote to Faber Fedor:
<STRONG>
thank you very much for your ram disk tutorial..
my squid run very fast. ;)
</STRONG></P>

<P>
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/bbub.gif" ALT="(!)"
	HEIGHT="28" WIDTH="50" BORDER="0"
	> [Iron]
Maybe if you use a helicopter you can catch up to it. :)



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<H3 ALIGN="center">Intrigues</H3>

<p align="right"><FONT COLOR="#000000"><strong>Answered By Ben Okopnik and Iron</strong></FONT></p>

<EM> Answering some question, Ben said:</EM>

<P>
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/bbub.gif" ALT="(!)"
	HEIGHT="28" WIDTH="50" BORDER="0"
	> [Ben]
I *have* found how to make it happen again, though.


<P>
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/bbub.gif" ALT="(!)"
	HEIGHT="28" WIDTH="50" BORDER="0"
	> [Iron]
He's got just enough information to make him dangerous.  We'll have to
take care of...  Oh, hi Ben.  [laughs innocuously]  I didn't realize
you were here.


<P>
<IMG SRC="../gx/dennis/bbub.gif" ALT="(!)"
	HEIGHT="28" WIDTH="50" BORDER="0"
	> [Ben]
&lt;muttering while slowly backing into a corner&gt; There is no Cabal. There 
is no Cabal. There is no... AAAAAAAHHHH!!!! &amp;)_*&amp;%$%$#LOST CARRIER













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<P> <hr> <P> 
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<center><H3><font color="maroon">World of Spam</font></H3></center>

<P> <HR> <P> 
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<P>

<P> Hi! How are you?

<P> I send you this file in order to have your advice

<P> See you later. Thanks

<BLOCKQUOTE><EM>
	[The Answer Gang got hit with some twenty copies of the Sir Cam
	worm/virus in two days.  Finally, we added the following stanza to
	all our .procmailrc's:
	
	</EM><PRE>
:0B
* (I send you this   file in order to have your advice|\
Te mando este   archivo para que me des tu punto de vista)
/dev/null
</PRE><EM>
	
Which sends it to the great bit bucket in the sky, where it belongs.
Remove the extra spaces in the middle of the sentances.  They are just
to keep <I>LJ</I> from being deleted by any overzealous spamfilter.
The second text line is a Spanish version we also received.  Of course,
since most of the Gang doesn't read mail on Windows, we didn't have to
worry about damage, just about the amount of disk space those buggers
take up.  Sir Can attaches a file to the message.  It's a different file
each time, but usually at least 200 KB.  That means five of them take up
an entire megabyte.  LG's spamfile this month was a whopping
</EM>55 megabytes (!)<EM>, mostly due twenty more copie of this virus.
	
	-Iron.]
</EM></BLOCKQUOTE>


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<P> Have you been considering upgrading your web site for e-commerce or
upgrading your existing shopping cart program to a higher level of performance?
Many on-line retailer's success or failure is determined by their e-commerce
solution.  


<HR NOSHADE WIDTH="40%" ALIGN="center"> <!-- ***************************** -->

<P>  It sounds like we have some things in common. We are both 
interested in getting people to join our Internet businesses.
Recently I found some FREE promotional software that I thought 
you might also like to try out. 


<HR NOSHADE WIDTH="40%" ALIGN="center"> <!-- ***************************** -->

From: igsys <BR>
Subject: the Nigeria/African money scam emails<BR>

<P> Just to add some emails from where they sent me this scam, as mr. Justin
Catterall  
<A HREF="../issue66/lg_backpage66.html">explained</A> in issue66 these are
really bad people, they are efficient and have things well, well planned. Have
a look below at their initial response which i did on purpose  (fortunately i
had read LG issue66) to get some more emails like XXXXX  (adb stands
for African Development Bank which is a "real" african bank...), this email is
from http://XXXXX

<P> i have been using Linux since 98, keep the excelent work of Linux Gazette.
ps.: please do not publish my email for security reasons

<BLOCKQUOTE>
From: isaacson jaide<BR>
Subject: send the application and call immediately to confirm<BR>

<P> I get your mail these morning because,since i sent you
the last lether,my mind have not find any rest.

<P> I'm very happy about your possitive interest in these
business.
Regarding to what it should be used for?
what i know is that i'm going to invest mine over
there in your contry.
Please do as directed.
The letter below is what you are going to fill your
correct a/c No and full address of the Bank and send
it directly to the Foreign Exchange managers e-mail
address: adb@XXXXX.org

<P> When you send it you confirm to me that you have done
that and send a copy to me.

<P> I wait to hear from you<BR>
yours<BR>
Isaacson shakas.


<PRE>
The Manager
African Development Bank.
Johannesburg.
South-Africa.

APPLICATION FOR THE RELEASE OF THE 126MILLION IN THE
A/C NO 202-15689-1.

Reference to the above quoted A/C No. 202-15689-1 of
Late Andreas B. Smith, with credit balance of 126
Million Point Zero - Zero US Dollars Only.

As the bonafide next of kin to the above named late
Andreas B. Smith Holder of the dormant Ref A/C, we
wish to apply for the release of the total said mount
and initial part payment of $26, 000,000.00, (Twenty
Six Million US Dollars only). in our favour
representing first phase payment from the credit
balance in the said a/c.

In accordance with National and International Laws of
inheritance kindly remit the stated amount in full to
our a/c No quoted below:

(PLEASE ENTER YOUR BANK DETAIL HERE)

This request is predicated on the fact that since the
death of our Manager Mr. Andreas B. Smith who was
entrusted with The Management of KRUGER GOLD MINING
CO. The need for the transfer of the money in the
account becomes imperative.

We shall therefore be very grateful if this request
meets with your favourable consideration


Thanks

Yours faithfully,
(YOUR FULL NAME)
</PRE>
</BLOCKQUOTE>


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I am interested in speaking with you about powering career centers for your
online properties.  XXXXXXXXXXX is the largest network of I.T. specific Job
Posting Sites.  The following URL will link you into a detailed description
of all of XXXXXXXXXXX's Network Partners and their corresponding Homepages
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<BLOCKQUOTE><EM>
	[And banner ads are SOOO lucrative!  -Iron.]
</EM></BLOCKQUOTE>


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<P> Valerie XXXX, a patient of dentist and hypnotherapist Dr. Bruce XXXXXXXX,
was trained to use hypnosis to see into the future and discovered an
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<P> Are you looking for your first Internet business...or your last?  

<P> If it's your first, wouldn't you like it to be your last?  Your last should
be like going home....it should be the one that allows you to double your full
time income on a part time basis, is stable, will be there for your heirs, and
give you the lifestyle you dream of.




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<P> Listen, you don't have to tell me - I KNOW what your experiences 
have been marketing online. You've been in one of two places. EITHER 
you're fairly new on the Internet, and you KNOW that SOMEBODY 
makes money online - but you can't quite figure out HOW. OR MAYBE 
you can "sign people up" like gangbusters - and those people just 
SIT THERE. Those people don't just "sit there" because they are "lazy",
 "stupid" or "don't have the desire". The ONLY way for this to work is 
to do what is done in EVERY OTHER industry but ours - and that is, 
let the "marketers" do the "marketing" - and let the other people do 
what THEY do best!

<P>
 Some people just STINK at marketing. And they will NEVER
make money online -no matter which "HOT! NEW!" thing they jump
into again THIS week! But the thing is - you don't HAVE to! Want to 
find out why I market for OTHER PEOPLE all day? Then you 
need to see my open letter about HOW we do that. Just a word to the 
wise. LOTS of people do it our way. Want to FINALLY make money 
online? Want to NEVER have to "recruit" and "motivate" and "babysit" 
again? Then see how YOU can succeed online even if you HATE to 
market! WHY IN THE WORLD would you NOT want us to do the 
marketing FOR you? Are you having such GREAT success trying to 
do it on your own? Are your people? Let US set up a totally 
AUTOMATED system for you where WE do all the marketing for 
you and we ALL make money!!

<BLOCKQUOTE><EM>
	["Or your last" ... because so many people are getting out of the
Internet business! -Iron.]
	</EM></BLOCKQUOTE>

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Update Your Income Now!

<BLOCKQUOTE><EM>
	[That's it, I want to get an income upgrade.  -Iron.]
</EM></BLOCKQUOTE>






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<P> Happy Linuxing!

<P> Mike ("Iron") Orr<br>
Editor, <A HREF="http://www.linuxgazette.com/"><i>Linux Gazette</i></A>, <A
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