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>trouble w/ dual boot</H3>
<p><strong>From Jeferson
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<p align="right"><strong>Answered By Mike Orr, Heather Stern, John Karns
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Aaaaargh
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Hey guys, how r ya doing huh ?
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I'm having a little problem here with my OS, I've installed
Conectiva Linux in the Master HD and I had the MS windows installed
ins the Maste Slave hd, what can I do to have a graphical interface
or even an easier way to boot in the system, without having to go
to the system setup and change the boot order ...
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Can ya help me ???
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> [Mike]
Have you looked at the HOWTOs at www.linuxdoc.org?
<A HREF="http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/howtos.html"
>http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/howtos.html</A>
Search for "Windows" and "Win" in the text. There are several HOWTOs
about making Linux coexist with Windows.
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Also poke around www.linuxnewbie.org for other information you might
find useful.
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I've already looked at the HOW-TOs and my problem is a bit different, there
is any way I can manage the boot, like... now I want to boot with Win32, I
just reboot the pc and choose MSWIN, later I'll be in a mood to boot with
Linux, then I reboot the system and choose LINUX, I've already tryied with
"system commander", the Grub... wait a second, isn't grub a graphical
interface for the LILO ? how can I change the configurations of the lilo,
where is it's configuration file?
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> [Heather]
<TT>/etc/lilo.conf</TT> is a text file that <TT>/sbin/lilo</TT> (a progam) uses to compose
LILO (the boot loader). It's usually quite well documented in <TT>/usr/share/doc</TT>
somewhere, in a directory named either lilo, or lilo with a version number.
And in 'man lilo' plus those HOWTOs that Mike mentioned.
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grub is not a GUI for LILO particularly; it's a boot loader in its own right.
But you can use it to point at LILO as a second stage if you want.
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GAG, the initials are for the spanish words of "Graphical Boot Manager",
is an entirely GUI bootloader, and it <EM>is</EM> its own configurator
- that sounds a bit more like what you are really asking for.
The link's quite slow for me but might be a bit closer to your ISP there
in Brazil:
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<A HREF="http://www.rastersoft.com/gageng.htm"
>http://www.rastersoft.com/gageng.htm</A>
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Gujin is another alternative bootloader, it's supposed to be smart enough
to look for bootable drives or kernels on its own, so it doesn't need setup:
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<A HREF="http://gujin.sourceforge.net"
>http://gujin.sourceforge.net</A>
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But if I misinterpreted what you want, there are GUI tools which run
under X to help you set up <TT>/etc/lilo.conf</TT> - among them Glilo (GTK), Klilo,
lilo-config, or BootRip.
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> [John]
Also, later versions of lilo have a gui-like interface which offer a menu
with a 'point & shoot' menu-bar. BTW, even the older lilo versions offer
a "menu" of sorts, if you press the '?' key at the boot prompt, which will
display a list of available choices; although you still have type the
selection rather than "point & shoot". Even this can be minimized by
using a short label in your lilo.conf:
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<p align="center">See attached <tt><a href="../misc/tag/jkarns.lilo.txt">jkarns.lilo.txt</a></tt></p>
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If your machine is fast enough and has ample memory, you might also
consider installing VMWare, and avoid having to reboot. Although if
you're a gamer, it might not offer what you want. Anyway, they are
offering an "express" version for $50, which isn't so expensive. I've
been very happy with the software, but it's running on a 700 Mhz machine
with 128 MB of RAM. Even w2k runs fast enough to be satisfactory. I also
purchased a copy to run on a 500 Mhz <TT>/</TT> SCSI machine which is a bit slower,
but still tolerable. A 380 Mhz <TT>/</TT> IDE <TT>/</TT> 64 MB machine is also usable, but
a bit too slow to be pleasureable.
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There are other products available both commercial (e.g., Win4Lin) and GPL
(Wine). Re: wine, it is indeed a formidable task to emulate an entire API
on a foreign OS. They deserve lots of credit for getting as far as they
have, but it's still alpha. I haven't looked at Win4Lin so can't comment,
except to say that I believe that VMWare is the most mature product in
this venue. BTW, they also offer a version for w2k <TT>/</TT> NT to host Linux,
but since I think that Linux is the more stable OS, it seems a better idea
to use Linux as the host =:<
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> [Heather]
Well if he <EM>is</EM> a gamer, I really think he ought to look at Transgaming
(<A HREF="http://www.transgaming.com"
>http://www.transgaming.com</A>)
and see if their <A HREF="http://www.winehq.com/">WINE</A> + ActiveX solution works for his games. I saw a demo
at LWE and it ran Diablo for MSwin directly; I was impressed.
</blockQuote>
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Lilo also supports a value called "alias" and if you make it a single
character then you can even get one-tap loading. Here's about the
simplest example that works -- assuming you have the world's plainest
configuration, basically, C: at the start, "all one big slash" for the
second partition with a linux kernel named "vmlinuz" at its root,
your swap partition invisible at the end, and no framebuffers or other
hardware oddities requiring an "append=" line. <TT>/vmlinuz</TT> could be a symlink
to wherever you really keep your kernels, if you prefer.
</blockQuote>
<blockquote><pre>boot=/dev/hda2
single-key
image = /vmlinuz
label = linux
alias = 1
other = /dev/hda1
label = dos
alias = 2
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PS: Sorry about the HTML
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That's okay, now you know
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Thankx
Jeferson
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You're welcome
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